Forgotten Soldiers

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JhonRambo
Cuck Haxan
Sax whatever his name is...maybe not the clearest case, but I'll get another.

look haxan is back guys

That was from a while ago, as was Rambo. There was another one that I didn't get a demo of: Ronald Spiers.
It is interesting that almost all the hackers have high pings...might be worthwhile to put an upper limit on ping. You would lose a few players but almost all the hackers.

Goodshot works very hard and we have banned a ton of hackers already. I know haxan was banned a long time ago but if hes back goodshot will take care of it.

Quote from: Dweller on April 24, 2016, 12:29:59 AM
CoDWaW
JhonRambo
Cuck Haxan
Sax whatever his name is...maybe not the clearest case, but I'll get another.

Quote from: Dweller on April 24, 2016, 12:36:45 AM
That was from a while ago, as was Rambo. There was another one that I didn't get a demo of: Ronald Spiers.
It is interesting that almost all the hackers have high pings...might be worthwhile to put an upper limit on ping. You would lose a few players but almost all the hackers.

Thank you Dweller for taking the time to record the demos in your report. We always appreciate it and always encourage players to do this if they suspect a player may be using hacks.  This greatly helps us to keep our server hack free and competitive.  And also helps to keep frivolous accusations to a minimum.

Lets first rule out what kind of hacks are obviously not being used.  With each demo we can see that each player has full recoil and no aimbots, literally nothing there with respect to those.  So it leaves us with the question if whether or not any type of wallhacks are being used.  In my opinion there is no evidence of wallhacks being used on all 3 of your demos.  And if wallhacks are being used, your demos are not long enough to identify any kind of wallhack.

1.  In JhonRambo's demo I see this player pushing spawn and shooting players in spawn direction while pushing it. Blasting players as they become visible. And spamming known camping spots close to spawn.  Knowing where the enemies are can be explained by knowing where their spawn is.  No evidence of any type of hack being used.

2.   I'm not going to go into why haxan is banned right now. In haxan's demo you can see this player camping high traffic areas in the general spawn direction.  Just sitting there camping and aiming in the spawn direction and popping targets as they become visible.  Knowing where the enemies are can be explained by figuring out where they're spawning from.  No evidence of any type of hack being used.

3.  In SaxCazuaal's demo you can clearly see player spamming in general spawn direction and getting kills as the enemies run into the spread.  Knowing where the enemies are can be explained by knowing where their spawn is. No evidence of any type of hack being used. Also SaxCazuaal is a respected, trusted member and admin of our clan so there's no need to worry about anything there.  We heavily screen every member for hacks and I can assure you that everything is clean.


You see a lot of high ping players on our server because our server is configured as an international server with the g_antilag setting set to 1. So the antilag setting is enabled.  To a point, this setting creates an even playing field for players that have higher pings.  So players with higher pings are not necessarily playing with a significant disadvantage on our server. Not saying that this is your argument, but the argument that players with higher pings shouldn't be getting higher scores doesn't necessarily apply on our server as it does on CoD servers not using the antilag setting.

When players are suspected of cheating without us being able to find any evidence, we refer to the mindset that it is better to let a cheater go without banning them than to keep an innocent player banned. This mindset is nothing new to us in the anticheat community. We're just simply not going to ban anyone for hacks without being able to prove it. Banning players for mere suspicion without proof leads to banning skilled players that are not using hacks. And in my opinion this leaves us with little or no competition to play against which turns the server into a boring place to play. Many players will always use weapons that give them a greater advantage and are very skilled at using them.

Also each player in question has already been under review in the past since they have already made it to our clean or inconclusive demo's list.  On this list you will see more previously recorded demos of each player in your report.  In some cases we have several demos of each player. We have 11 previously recorded demos of haxan and still have no conclusive demo evidence against this player.  We use the demo system to not only help prove that players are using hacks but to also help prove that players are not using hacks.  The more I review previously recorded demos of each player in your report, the cleaner they look to me. All skilled at using weapons that give them a greater advantage and not using any hacks to score their points on all recordings. This is our clean or inconclusive demos list for download and review:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=B1EFE7BF1EB33730!754&authkey=!AI6EHyN1zFpAt0k&ithint=folder%2cdm_6

I hope the previously recorded demos help shed more light as to whether or not the players in your report are using hacks. So far all the recorded demo evidence points to the contrary in my opinion.  Thanks again for helping us keep our server competitive and hack free.

Ok thanks for taking the time to review the demos. If I see Rambo again I'll get a better demo. He was clearly using an aimbot though from the demo I sent I can see your point. I've been watching hackers since the first CoD and unfortunately had to bust 2 trusted clan mates back then.

One more thing, then I'll drop it. I understand you're position on giving the benefit of the doubt so as not to ban players just because they are better players. When I was younger, quicker and could see better (I'm 67 years old) I was subject to that a number of times. On the other hand many of the telltale signs of aimbots, no recoil etc. have been eliminated from the new cheats.
When you suggest that players are just in a good position and spamming the spawn area, I suggest they may be using a triggerbot. Almost undectable to a watcher, the weapon fires automatically when an opponent enters the gun sights, even from a distance. I'll see if I can find a demo of what I mean.
In the end, like most things in life "If it's seems too good to be true, it probably is."

Thanks for the information and looking forward to reviewing your demo.

Quote from: Dweller on April 26, 2016, 10:25:03 AM
One more thing, then I'll drop it. I understand you're position on giving the benefit of the doubt so as not to ban players just because they are better players. When I was younger, quicker and could see better (I'm 67 years old) I was subject to that a number of times. On the other hand many of the telltale signs of aimbots, no recoil etc. have been eliminated from the new cheats.
When you suggest that players are just in a good position and spamming the spawn area, I suggest they may be using a triggerbot. Almost undectable to a watcher, the weapon fires automatically when an opponent enters the gun sights, even from a distance. I'll see if I can find a demo of what I mean.
In the end, like most things in life "If it's seems too good to be true, it probably is."

This could be what your're after?

Lol...don't know what that guy was doing. Looked like a triggerbot but set at a pretty low level. Bad hack by a bad player. The interesting thing about the triggerbot is that it mimics a mouse click without the button being pushed. So one clue is that at times it will seem like a wheel bind on an automatice rifle or pistol. Reviewing my demos I see that there was not much there but there's always a next time.